things Needed when a Natural Disaster Hits.?

Q. Please give me a list of things; supplies needed when natural disaster hit, AND AFTER a Disaster as in tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, flood, nd much more.! :)

Answer
1) several cases of bottled water and/or a portable water filter from Katadyn or MSR. Clean water is the first thing to go in a disaster, don't mess around here, get your water taken care of ASAP.

2) canned soups/stews, canned fish and meats, boxes of cereal, instant potatoes, instant rice, instant oatmeal, foil top fruit in a cup, milk powder, canned butter / coconut oil / safflower oil / olive oil in dark bottle. Anything that's easy to eat, or quick to cook and has an ok shelf life. Pasta takes a lot of energy to cook; white rice less, stores well... get 20-50 pounds rice as your primary source of calories for a long term emergency. Couple bottles of multi-vitamins is a good idea too.

3) extra hygienic and medications: spare medicine, spare eyeglasses, spare tampons/pads, toilet paper, bucket and garbage bags for emergency toilet, spare toothbrush, Listerine.

4) First Aid materials: antibacterial ointment, antifungal ointment, anti diarrhea pills, anti-histamine spray for insect bites, rolls of gauze, boxes of bandaids, and a box of wound dressing, rubbing alcohol and peroxide.

5) lighting / gadgets: LED headlamp (very important), LED lantern, either lots of extra batteries OR rechargeables plus a solar charger. Small AM/FM radio. Some opt for a gasoline generator; if you can store fuel and afford the generator, then go for it. Kerosene heater is useful in winter, or else fireplace with plenty of firewood (keep a window open when using the heater). Those cheap pre-pay cellphones with an extra pre-paid card, and a cellphone charger run by AA batteries.

6) tools: leatherman or swiss knife multitool, chainsaw or bowsaw for clearing branches (with a spare container of stabilized gas for the chainsaw), large camp axe, crowbar, hammer.

7) raw material supplies: plastic sheeting or woven tarp, duct tape, rope, nails, JB weld putty, silicone adhesive/sealant.

8) camping supplies: decent tent, numerous Sterno canned heat OR an alcohol stove with a gallon of denatured alcohol fuel, sleeping bag that's rated at least 20 degrees colder than what you expect to be sleeping in, collapsible water bladders, multi-pack of Bic lighters.

9) helpful miscellaneous: a set of 5-mile range walkie talkies, pair of comfortable hiking boots, sturdy and comfortable backpack, wad of spare cash, important documents (passport, birth certificate, etc...), spare keys. Pack of playing cards, little notebook and pen, little calculator, road atlas.

10) self defense: pepper spray where legal, handgun or pistol caliber carbine where legal and owned responsibly; a wooden stock mini-14 looks innocent but is a full power semi-auto rifle; a handgun or revolver can be carried in more places without detection, thus more likely to be there when you need it. Shotguns are best for home defense unless it's too loud and powerful for your weight, then a carbine offers more control.

New Telescope for new Astronomer?

Q. I live in the Uk, what telescope could I buy to look at planets or other objects with are contained in our vast universe. Iam a new follower to astronomy and would like jump on the band wagon and purchase a telescope, bearing in mind i live in the Uk can you please give me 'reliable' website or point out which telescope is best for me to purchase i do not want a really complex one but i do not want a really simple one that will show me nothing... All help will be greatly appreciated

Answer
Hi.
If you look at Warehouse Express you'll find what there is for the money. It's reliable, one of the cheapest outlets in UK, and very good with deliveries. No long waiting.
Just click on the boxes and you'll find what the different types are. Saves dozens of lines of explanation.
I use them...have done for years. No problems at all.
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/category/categorynav.aspx?cat02=2006 . . .
You can expect to pay £120+ for a tube and optics good enough to actually be worth getting, plus another £100+ for a mount.
Top range is over a year's pay. At that level the actual figure isn't important.
At £200-£600 is the main line stuff that most people land up with. Nice to get an £8000 big Meade or Astro-Physics refractor with computer controlled bells and whistles but there's a house to run first.
I make telescopes. Thousands do. Mirrors and all. Cheaper.
The best value for money are Dobsonians but the mounting is simple and doesn't allow large magnifications for planets. Too awkward with the fast image movement at high powers.They are best for wide field low power views.
An equatorial mount isn't hard to use. Some people get flustered at the appearance of them compared to a simple Dobsonian but an equatorial is very versatile and actually easier to use over a wider range of magnifications.
You'll see Eq1, Eq2 etc mounts on the scopes advertised. Those two are small and for small scopes. They are also pretty useless.
An Eq3 is the smallest that's any good really, and an Eq5 is OK. The Celestron standard equatorial for their eight-inch Schmitt-Cassegrains used to be an Eq4 with their own name on it. They call it a CG-5.
http://www.astronomyboy.com/cg5/ . . . . .
http://www.celestron.com/c3/product.php?ProdID=91 . . . .
They are all made by Synta in China, as most refracting and a lot of Schmitt-Cassegrains and Maksutov telescopes are.
Meade makes their own in the better ranges, in USA.
Top stuff, and they took on Celestron who started the big revolution in quality telescopes for the mass market and Meade never looked back. Celestron were struggling a few years ago , got taken over by a cheapie firm...Tasco.(Oh the shame of it) , had a management buyout, all sorts of trouble. Back to better times now.
A great British company making superb telescopes in the Midlands at lovely old Crewe of railway junction fame (biggest rail junction in UK) is Orion Optics.
It isn't the same firm as Orion in USA that you'll see advertising in Sky and Telescope.
Orion Optics scopes are pricey, but ..................Wooooow!!!
http://www.orionoptics.co.uk/ . . .
Down south in London is the Widescreen Centre. Doesn't sound like a likely candidate but it's one of the most respected telescope suppliers in UK and you can call in for a chat, no obligation, nice time,very friendly.
They started in the proffessional photography scene, supplying products for sale or hire for studios and big exhibitions.
Top rated company, very very good.
They're in a side road (big side road) a few minutes walk from the Madam Tussaud's waxworks in Baker Street. If you're down the smoke anytime it's well worth calling in for a chat and a look at the goodies. If you haven't heard the expression before 'the smoke' is a northern expression for London.
http://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/ . . . .
To see telescopes in use and get an idea of what would suit you best you need a star party or an astro club outdoor meet.
Galloway has just opened UK's first Dark Sky Park. Keep a look out for events and go along. Astronomers are a friendly bunch. Getting a look through people's scopes is what folks are there for. Don't be shy. Use the time. Get some friends, contacts, useful info and addresses, enjoy the night. Tent and sleeping bag, portable camping stove and food (used away from the telescope area) and a warm companion if desired (not usually supplied, most people take their own,haha) for the remains of the night and the inevitable lie in through most of the morning, makes a real good time of it.
All night if the clouds ruin things. Still a great place to be though.
Star parties are held all over the world. Not many in Inner Mongolia, but they're not unknown.
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/darkskygalloway . . . .
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/newsrele.nsf/AllByUNID/3CFD750C977A5FDD8025766F00392085 . . .
Here's a guy in Scotland asking about astronomy
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100114053415AAYOtZi . . . . .
You could check the local library for a list of local clubs, or do a net search. Most libraries keep info on all the organisations in their area., from the Aberdeen fish smoking and bread lovers appreciation society to the Zulu battle dancing and running club.....or whatever.
Here are a couple of telescope Qs to get the flavour of things. There are hundreds more. Just search for telescope Qs in the 'Search for Questions' box.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091122083238AAxR6It . . . .
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100331141217AAsUvFJ . . . . . .
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100325105812AAz7nxR . . . . .
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091030052042AAdIYFr . . . . . .
Have a great time.
Dark Skies!

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How do I buy gear that uses less space for car camping?

MthrNature

In the past I've done a lot of car camping. However, even in a full size 4 door sedan, I am using up all kinds of space with clothing, gear, ice chests, etc...so much so that with 2 people, the trunk and back seats are fully occupied.

I'm in a position right now to order a new set of camping gear. How should I go about it so that the gear all fits into the large trunk of my full size car? I envision being able to provide for 4 people in my trunk with food and gear, and still have the seats to transport them.

I'm not a poet or an English major, so if I need to add details, please let me know.

Thanks!

Answer
The first thing is to try to reduce the amount of gear and clothing you bring with you. While you need fresh socks and underwear every day, pants and shirts can usually go two days between changes. Exchange bulky clothing such as denim and flannel for more compact chinos or synthetics. Trim out unnecessary items from your toiletries kit. If you have a properly-rated sleeping bag you won't need to bring blankets. Leave your pillows at home and stuff your pillowcase with your extra clothing. Minimize your cooking gear down to the bare essentials.

After you eliminate or swap all you can to save weight, then you can look at replacing items with gear that's more compact.

The first easy swap is to get rid of those cotton bath and dish towels and switch to synthetic pack towels.

Things like lanterns and bug lamps can take up a lot of room. If you have huge gas or oil lanterns, consider replacing them with more compact (and longer running) LED lanterns. Instead of bug lamps or citronella candles bring mosquito coils. Replacing folding tables and chairs with roll-up tables and bag chairs will save space.

Also look at the size of your coolers and how you pack them into the trunk. Sometimes going with a different cooler design will allow you to pack your car more efficiently without sacrificing cooler capacity. And if you're bringing more than two coolers, (one for beverages, which gets used most often, and one for food), you've got too many.

Do you bring both a stove and a grill? Maybe you can consolidate by using a Coleman Grill/Stove unit (just don't use the grill side for pots and pans, it _CAN_ melt; don't ask how I know). You can also get a griddle accessory for this unit, which might replace your frying pan entirely.

Next look at your sleeping bag. Although they can be a bit expensive, you can find sleeping bags that compress down to 1/4 the size of a cheap unit. 9" x 15" pack size is easily obtainable without spending over $100 per bag. Then look at what's going under your sleeping bag. Is it a huge cot or mattress? You might be able to save a bunch of space by switching to a more compact-folding cot or self-inflating mattress.

Then look at your shelter(s). How much room could you save if you went with a smaller tent design? Is it worth the trade-off in space? Maybe you could find a tent with similar floor space that packs into a smaller footprint. Do you also bring along an easy-up, screen room or gazebo to shelter your kitchen/dining/sitting area?

Finally, if the above doesn't solve your packing problems, or the cost exceeds your budget, you can always add additional storage space by using a removable roof-top basket and/or waterproof cargo bag to handle additional gear. Just be careful to adequately secure everything before heading out on your trip.
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Living in the canyon for the summer--being voluntarily homeless?

Q. So I'm seriously debating over whether it is a good or bad idea to go live in the canyon this summer instead of renting an apartment. I love the outdoors and I could save a lot of money by just camping up there. No rent, no utilities, and natural living! I also think it will be a really good learning experience.

My plan so far is to rent a storage unit with electricity for all my crap. That way I could have a mini fridge and a place to plug in an electric griddle if need be. I would still have my car. I am a student at the university so I'd use the gym's showers, campus internet, etc... Then I could rotate through campsites every week so I'm not too suspicious.

I think this town consistently rates one of the top safest towns in America so I really doubt I need to worry about creepers. And the campsites are usually well kept so I feel like large animals will steer clear. And like I said, I still have my car in case of emergency.

Am I forgetting anything? Should I be worried about anything else? Any personal experiences?

Thanks

Answer
In order to obtain a master's degree, I camped in developed campsites for two summers in a van down by the river. Due to all of my papers and an electric-powered non-stick pan for meals, I was glad to have electricity provided in camp. Fees were cheap, but transportation and loss of time were costs. I also paid for one restaurant meal each day due to time constraints, usually a Chinese lunch for economy and healthy components in the meal. Your willingness to move camp weekly is very responsible and will allow you to leave-no-trace. Therefore, you will not be in conflict with law enforcement as long as you are following the local regulations for dispersed camping. In my circumstances, I was not near any lands where dispersed camping was allowed. I figured that my daily living costs were $20 per day.

Today, I could have adequate battery storage to run a laptop computer between charging at school. I would use propane-butane canisters for cooking now. During my education, internet was not a source of research materials. I slept comfortably in a +15 degree sleeping bag, especially because the van retained some heat. I did shower and shave in the university gym early each morning without ever being challenged. During the past decade I have never applied any of my university education from three degrees, five certifications, and spent two decades being either underemployed or moving every few years for career changes. Of course, I answer questions, write articles and books, but do not recover the costs of outdoor gear or transportation from my work.

I have known a few homeless men. One froze to death in winter on a below-zero night where alcohol was involved. Another beat a fellow homeless man to death at his campsite and is serving a sentence for murder. A woman was killed by her homeless man companion associated with a knife-stabbing during an alcoholic binge in their campsite. Several young men have frozen to death in snowdrifts near me due to being disoriented on their way homes from bars. No one ever had a conflict with a wild animal, except one man stored canned goods in his tent that were eaten by a black bear when he was away from his dispersed camp near town. I attribute that problem as stupidity of the homeless man and proximity to a community that trains bears to eat refuse. I have never had any encounter with a bear in my remote wilderness dispersed camps. Human communities educate bears badly and help create alienated homeless men. Military veterans, alcoholics, and mentally-ill men are typically homeless and estranged from "civilization." Perhaps, you will be able to write a balanced thesis on homelessness in American after you get a taste of it.

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Tips for camping on my honeymoon?

Q. Hi! Originally my fiancee and I were going to get a hotel room on a beach that's about an hour and a half away from where we'll be living for our honeymoon (next march) but my hubby-to-be can't swim and is terrified of the ocean and I don't reallly LOVE it either. So after much thought and consideration I decided I'd like to go camping. I brought the idea up to my fiancee and he LOVED the idea. We both agree that being in the wilderness, just one tent, one sleeping bag, the stars and I will be so nice and romantic. Here's the issue: neither of us has been camping. When I was a kid I used to sleep in a tent in my dad's backyard but that's the extent of my wilderness expereince... and his is when he was kicked out for two days as a teenager and slept in the park... so basically we have NONE. What tips can anyone give us? What type of tent and sleeping bag should we get? What should we bring along? We'll be living in South Texas (McAllen) so where should we GO camping... like a specific camping ground or just where ever the trails take us? ANY help (especially tips that'll save us money!!) are VERY much appreciated.

I will be picking a best answer so if you put time into your answer don't worry, I'll take note of it :)

Answer
My first and foremost bit of advice would be to try some shorter camping trips first and gain some personal experience. Then, as Trish suggests, consider a location where you can drive to a site, rather than having to hike long distances. As a newer camper, the extra safety and convenience of having your vehicle nearby will likely be a welcome benefit.

Your basics are tent, sleeping bag, mattress, kitchen gear, food and water storage, bathroom/hygiene, clothing, first aid and comfort. Trying to deal with each of these in sufficient detail to be useful would make a good book or website. I generally try to avoid just posting links without any details, but in this case Yahoo! won't even let me get half way through without telling me my post is too long. So I suggest you spend a few evenings reviewing the wealth of knowledge on REI's "Expert Advice" website:

http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/camping#tab_2

I'll forewarn you that gearing-up for your first camping trip can be quite expensive, but try to avoid going out and buying everything you can think of for your first trip. As I said above, take a few shorter trips and build up what you need over time. Don't be tempted to cheap-out on important things like your tent or mattress, as this can lead to a miserable experience. As long as you're not backpacking, don't concern yourself with ultralight (and ultra-expensive) gear. Get a good 4-person dome tent with plenty of ventilation and good storm fly coverage from a quality brand, such as Eureka, NorthFace, Coleman or Kelty. Two sleeping bags that can zip together will be more useful in the long run than one double bag. Watch your temperature ratings on the sleeping bags: unless you expect to camp in very cold weather, 40-degree is a good rating (you can always bring some blankets to extend if necessary, or leave it open or even sleep on top in hot weather). A mattress is important for warmth and comfort. For two people either get a good quality inflatable mattress and pump, or two thick, large self-inflating mattresses (you can buy or make straps to hold them together).

Be prepared for rain and unexpected cold weather. An extra tarp, a dining canopy, easy-up or screen room is recommended. Mosquito coils or bug lanterns help keep the bugs away better than citronella candles and don't stink like oil lanterns. Consider items like food storage, seating, bathroom needs (if no bathroom will be convenient), fresh water storage and purification (if necessary), cutting firewood, etc.

Let me end now before Yahoo cuts me short again. But spend the time on REI's site and then go out on some practice trips. Congratulations on your nuptials and I hope your honeymoon camping experience is every bit as pleasant and romantic as you envision.

How do I buy gear that uses less space for car camping?

MthrNature

In the past I've done a lot of car camping. However, even in a full size 4 door sedan, I am using up all kinds of space with clothing, gear, ice chests, etc...so much so that with 2 people, the trunk and back seats are fully occupied.

I'm in a position right now to order a new set of camping gear. How should I go about it so that the gear all fits into the large trunk of my full size car? I envision being able to provide for 4 people in my trunk with food and gear, and still have the seats to transport them.

I'm not a poet or an English major, so if I need to add details, please let me know.

Thanks!

Answer
The first thing is to try to reduce the amount of gear and clothing you bring with you. While you need fresh socks and underwear every day, pants and shirts can usually go two days between changes. Exchange bulky clothing such as denim and flannel for more compact chinos or synthetics. Trim out unnecessary items from your toiletries kit. If you have a properly-rated sleeping bag you won't need to bring blankets. Leave your pillows at home and stuff your pillowcase with your extra clothing. Minimize your cooking gear down to the bare essentials.

After you eliminate or swap all you can to save weight, then you can look at replacing items with gear that's more compact.

The first easy swap is to get rid of those cotton bath and dish towels and switch to synthetic pack towels.

Things like lanterns and bug lamps can take up a lot of room. If you have huge gas or oil lanterns, consider replacing them with more compact (and longer running) LED lanterns. Instead of bug lamps or citronella candles bring mosquito coils. Replacing folding tables and chairs with roll-up tables and bag chairs will save space.

Also look at the size of your coolers and how you pack them into the trunk. Sometimes going with a different cooler design will allow you to pack your car more efficiently without sacrificing cooler capacity. And if you're bringing more than two coolers, (one for beverages, which gets used most often, and one for food), you've got too many.

Do you bring both a stove and a grill? Maybe you can consolidate by using a Coleman Grill/Stove unit (just don't use the grill side for pots and pans, it _CAN_ melt; don't ask how I know). You can also get a griddle accessory for this unit, which might replace your frying pan entirely.

Next look at your sleeping bag. Although they can be a bit expensive, you can find sleeping bags that compress down to 1/4 the size of a cheap unit. 9" x 15" pack size is easily obtainable without spending over $100 per bag. Then look at what's going under your sleeping bag. Is it a huge cot or mattress? You might be able to save a bunch of space by switching to a more compact-folding cot or self-inflating mattress.

Then look at your shelter(s). How much room could you save if you went with a smaller tent design? Is it worth the trade-off in space? Maybe you could find a tent with similar floor space that packs into a smaller footprint. Do you also bring along an easy-up, screen room or gazebo to shelter your kitchen/dining/sitting area?

Finally, if the above doesn't solve your packing problems, or the cost exceeds your budget, you can always add additional storage space by using a removable roof-top basket and/or waterproof cargo bag to handle additional gear. Just be careful to adequately secure everything before heading out on your trip.
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Can you use a summer tent in winter?

jacquie

I just bought a summer tent and I was wondering if I could use it in winter. I live in Australia, so our winters aren't that cold or wet. I will use it mostly in summer but I was thinking of using it in Broken Hill in July.
Tent I bought: http://www.kathmandu.com.au/Tents_&_Shelters/Family_Camping_/87057/Retreat_30_Tent.html
Thoughts?

Answer
The difference between 3-season (summer) and 4-season (winter) tents is the amount of ventilation and fly coverage for retaining heat and blocking wind.

A 4-season tent strives to be as sealed as possible, with little ventilation to keep your body heat in and cold wind out. This is usually enhanced by a full-coverage fly, sometimes called a double-wall design, to trap a static layer of air between the inner tent wall and the fly, for insulation. 4-season tents are also usually designed to be more stable in high winds. The costs for this is increased weight/bulk and increased build-up of humidity, the latter often leading to condensation.

A 3-season tent focuses more on basic rain and wind protection while providing good ventilation for comfort. While you can zip-up the windows and doors there are usually large, open vent areas on the top of the tent, and the fly usually only covers the vents and shields the windows; it does not extend all the way to the ground.

I find that, except in extreme cold and wind, a 3-season tent with decent fly coverage is sufficient for most winter camping. My opinion is that a tent is shelter from the weather (wind, rain, snow) and bugs for sleeping, not for warmth or daytime activities. More important are the rating of your sleeping system (bag, pad, liner) and the clothing you wear to sleep (cap, socks, gloves, loose but insulating clothing). I've slept in 20*F (-7*C) temperatures with a light breeze in my 3-season tent (Eureka Backcountry 2) and was warm and comfortable. The tent you bought appears to have even better fly coverage, so I'd expect it to perform just as well or better.

Edit: If the coldest temperature you can expect will be 5*C (41*F), then you are well within the range of a normal 3-season tent without any additional insulation. Be careful using a tarp over a tent as most are not breathable, and if tightly sealed, could lead to oxygen depletion and CO poisoning.

What hiking and camping gear should I buy?

djinvincea

Ok here's the scoop...
I want to get into hiking and camping with my wife. I currently have no gear. What should I buy? I have about $800 to work with. I am planning on camping through 3 seasons, spring, summer, and fall (a little in the winter perhaps). I am going to need a two person tent, his and hers sleeping bags, and his and hers backpacks. I am looking for gear that would take me on 2-4 day hikes. Should go with internal or external backpacks. What's the difference? Is there a good rain resistant tent within my price range? I'm thinking I would want a mummy type sleeping bag. Again, not sure though. Brand names with reasons for purchasing would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Answer
Go to www.cabelas.com and browse around, or better yet request a catalog. It's the best outdoors outfitter I've ever used. First off, since you're talking about backpacking, you need to think lightweight. Interior/Exterior just has to do with whether the frame is inside or outside the "pack" on a backpack. To decide on which type is better fo you, go to a good sporting goods store in your area and look at them/try them on. Sleeping backs should definately be the "mummy" style bags. They are around $100 each, but are very lightweight and can handle moderately cold weather (sleeping bags will have a rating in degrees to how cold it can get and you can still rely on the sleeping bag). They can also be compacted better than classic sleeping bags. Any brand in Cabela's would be a good brand, including its own brand. Also buy you and your wife sleeping pads... they are light, compact, and your back is worth it. I like the self-inflating type, but you can also get foam ones. Again any brand in Cabela's (this goes for all their products) is usually a good brand.

Tents are usually rated by seasons they can be used in (summer, 3-season, or all weather are popular ratings). Definately go for a dome-style tent rather than the boxier tents. Dome style tents are usually more sturdy, deflect water better, and are usually lighter. Also you'll want one with a good rain cover that goes close to the base of the tent, and a high waterproof rating (in mms)... 1,500mm waterproof ratings are pretty good. Also, pay attention to weight. Aluminum weighs less than fiberglass, but costs more also. A two person tent probably weighs around 15 lbs, and you and your wife can split this weight (she takes tent, you poles) or you can pack it yourself, but weight is the largest factor (besides neccesities) when hiking.

Alright, now that we have the major equipment out of the way, here are some neccessities.

-First Aid Kit and maps or knowledge of area, or GPs
-Flashlight w/extra batteries and lantern would be nice
-Good all-purpose knife/survival knife
-water purification pump AND purification pills... start out with at least 1/2 gallon of water each
-Waterproof matches AND waterproof lighter (just in case)
-Lightweight stove. Sporting good store can recommend good ones for backpacking.
-Food: lightweight, non-perishables, such as top ramen, energy bars, canned food, chocolate. Fatty foods are good to have in the woods since you will be burning a lot of calaries. They say one of the best things you can eat if your lost is butter. You may burn 3,000 or more calaries a day, so don't try to go on a diet right then. I recommend some type of powder flavoring for water... it doesn't always taste great when used with purification pills.
-Dish soap, eating utensils and backpacking pots. They usually come in a nice kit that doesn't take up much space. Look on Cabela's or at a sporting goods store.
-TOILET PAPER
-Permits. You usually have to get permits to camp in public parks/Forest Service land. You go to the closest Forestry office to pick these up. These are important if for no other reason than if you don't come back when your family expects you, they know where to start looking.
-Bear spray
-Clothes that can be layered, gloves, beanies, good hiking boots and tennis shoes if you dont mind the extra weight (for camp).

Recommended Supplies:

-Cell phone or handheld CB at least
-Camera (for obvious reasons)
-Rope(hang your food away from camp so predators dont get into it).
-Insect repellant/sunblock


There's probably more that I am missing, but those are the most important. The most important thing to do when going camping is to tell at least two responsible people you know where you're going, and give them a timeframe for coming back. Also I recommend you both take a First Aid Course... they are usually free and something could go wrong quickly (although unlikely) in the forests... snake bite, broken leg, heat stroke, hyperthermia, bear attack, drinking bad water (always purify or boil for five minutes... & retrieve from running water source. If impossible to purify, find area where water is "falling"... it's usually cleanest there).

I'm not trying to scare you away and you guys will probably have a blast, but definately be prepared.

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