Going camping.. is there a safe kind of heater for a tent?

Kimberly

it is a 2 bedroom tent, 6 ft high... not sure of other dimensions, but it is large. I'm in PA and tonight it will be in the low 40's. Is there such a thing as a safe tent heater? (we will have electric)

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I have a 18' X24' canvas wall tent with a "stove jack" built into it for a fireplace/wood stove for winter heat and my wood stove works very well for this tent. But even flameproofing for canvas isn't always flameproof. With the modern vinyl tents made now adays there really isn't a safe heater to use. Buy a good sleeping bag with a rating below 20degrees F to keep you warm and toasty. I have a mini Dachshund that insists on going camping with me and he works way better than any heat source available to man. He literally roasts me out of my sleeping bag every time since he sleeps inside my bag with me at my feet. The most economical way to go in my opinion is the colder rated sleeping bag for several reasons including you don't need to carry extra bedding material with you, no water to heat up, no flame/fire danger, and it is a renewable overnight heat source good for many camping trips so its economical! The 40's arn't to cold to deal with when it comes to overnight temps. You can go to Wal-Mart for a cheap bag rated at 32 degrees but again I would suggest spending a little more for a better bag but, that's up to you. Good Luck

What type of canvas and rope make the standard GI shelter half or "pup tent"?

Mosin Smit

I have a genuine GI issue "pup tent" the kind that is made from two shelter halves. I love love love the canvas and rope that it is made of. The canvas folds wonderfully and is just thick / heavy enough to block wind and provide a durable, stable, solid tarp and still be light weight. The rope is perfect. It is nice and flexible, soft, and holds a great knot.
My question is this... I would like to buy tarp squares and ropes that are the same grade or quality and material as the pup tent. I am not familiar with how these are catagorized. Is the tent a 12 mil. is it a 10 mil.? Is it a duck canvas? Is the rope made out of cotton, hemp, nylon, what? It feels like cotton I suppose.
I would just like to know what to buy. Most of the shopping I will be doing for this stuff is online so I cant touch or feel it first. I know I could just buy a bunch of pup tents, but I dont want it in that shape. I want to be able to buy different sized tarps and a long length of rope to do different things with.

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It's canvas duck and for camping it comes in two weights: ten ounce and thirteen ounce. There are two companies that sell these shelter halves as well as a variety of other tents and the first one will even sell you the canvas and you can sew your own. You can order their catalog and even shop their online stores.
The larger of the two companies is known as Panther Primitives. You'll be impressed by the variety of tents they sell - and a lot of their other products as well. The other is Smoke and Fire Co. Type either name into your search engine.
I have four tents, three from Panther Primitives and one from a sutler known as Orchard Hill. I also have two big canvas dining flys, both from Panther. One is 12 feet by 12 feet and the other is 16 b y 16 feet. They're incredibly sturdy. They do take up a lot of room when folded for storage, though. You have a pup tent (Panther calls 'em "dog tents" which is what they were called in the American Civil War) so you know how much room the can take up and how heavy they are. You won't backpack these tents! Heck, look 'em up anyway - both catalogs are full of way cool stuff!

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I want to go camping and use a canvas wall tent instead of a modern tent. Can I rent one some where?

jordan

I live in Miami, but my final destination will be the Great Smokey Mountain National Park. So any where in between would work.

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I worked in the wilderness equipment and guide business for a while and have never known any outfitter who rented canvas tents. I doubt there would be sufficient market for them because they are heavy, difficult to set up and require carerful maintenance, as well as having a space to dry and clean them after use. Just not a practical item to rent.

Most people buy their own. The Tentsmith company in Conway, NH, is one vendor that makes a huge range of styles and sizes of canvas wall tents, many of them used by historical reenactors. You can buy a small one for around $400.

http://www.tentsmiths.com/period-tents-wall-tents.html

I've camped out in canvas tents -- they are actually quite cozy in two conditions: very dry cold winters (you can use a vented wood stove in them) or in desert condition. They are less than ideal in warm or cool humid conditions. The canvas absorbs water and the threads swell, which keeps rain from pouring through, but it does mean the walls are wet most of the time and if the tent is small your bedding gets wet from precipitation. Also, most have no floor so if the ground becomes saturated it will come up through the earth under the tent, so you have to lay down a rubber or plastic ground sheet. If you are camping for any period of time in wet weather you tend to have mold problems on the fabric.

There are some campgrounds that rent fixed in place canvas wall tents, usually larger ones on platforms. Those of us who grew up in the 50's through the 70's remember those vividly from summer camp, that musty damp canvas smell is part of childhood.

Is a small camping stove practical in the camping trip?

Prince

I saw a small camping stove online. The heat output is 2 - 2.5kw and it's only 11.15kg. I always go camping with two or three friends. Is it practical in my camping trip?

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I assume you are talking about this wood-burning stove: http://bit.ly/sjARL6

No, not really practical. Even car camping, it's much larger and heavier (24.58lbs) than it needs to be, and doesn't really put out a lot of heat. You would need to cut and split wood to feed it, either at camp (which might be prohibited) or at home and carry it with you. Then you'd have to start working at getting the stove lit and up to temperature about 30-40 minutes before you could start cooking. Finally, when you're done, you have to wait for the stove to run out of fuel and cool-off before you could clean out the ashes and pack the stove away.

There are a few advantages. This kind of stove can be used inside of canvas-wall tents designed to accommodate an inside stove. Even outdoors it will generate heat worthy of sitting around on a cold night, and might be permitted as an enclosed fire when open campfires are prohibited. And there's no substitute for the smell of a wood fire.

A more practical solution would be to buy a couple of portable single-burner gas cookers, or a portable dual-burner gas cooker (some also have a grill). These would pack smaller and lighter, be easier to use and control.

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what are some of the things people used during the manifest destiny?

large canvas tents for camping image

Princess M

i am doing a cotolog for the time period of the manifest destiny and want to include items that they actuallly used. things like clothing, cooking tools, toys for kids, also bigger things like horse and buggies etc.

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Per Person:
150 lbs flour or hard bread
25 lbs bacon
10 lbs rice
15 lbs coffee
2 lbs tea
25 lbs sugar
1/2 bushel dried peas
1/2 bushel dried fruit
2 lbs soleratus (baking soda)
10 lbs salt
1/2 bushel corn meal
1/2 bushel corn
small keg vinegar
pepper

Miscellaneous per family:
rifle,ball, powder
8-10 gallon keg for water
1 axe
1 hatchet
1 spade
2 or 3 augers
1 hand saw
1 whip or cross cut saw
1 plow mold
at least 2 ropes
mallet for driving picket pins
matches carried in bottles, corked

Clothing per person:
Men: 2 wool shirts, 2 wool undershirts
Women: 2 wool dresses
Both: 2 pair drawers, 4 pair wool socks, 2 pair cotton socks, 4 colored
handkerchiefs, 1 pair boots and shoes, poncho, brimmed hat

Sewing supplies placed in buckskin or stout cloth bag:
stout linen thread, large needles, thimble, bit of bee's wax, few buttons,
buckskin for patching, paper of pins

Personal items:
1 comb and brush, 2 toothbrushes, 1 lb castile soap, 1 belt knife, 1 flint
stone per man

Cooking:
Baking pan-used for baking and for roasting coffee; mess pan-wrought iron or
tin; 2 churns-one for sweet, one for sour milk; 1 coffee pot--tin cup with
handle, 1 tin plate, knives; 1 coffee mill (forks, spoons per person); 1
camp kettle, fry pan, and wooden bucket for water.

Bedding per person: 1 canvas, 2 blankets, 1 pillow, one tent per family.

Medical supplies: iron rust, rum and cognac (both for dysentary), calomel,
quinine for ague, epsom salts for fever, castor oil capsules.

Does anyone have any good summer love stories when you were young?

Like with a guy/girl that you like. Staying up late at night with them hanging out. I always wanted to experience that with someone I think its cool. Could you share your story like a summary? Eric Church's Springsteen makes me think of that lol (:

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So here's my story(Since I had nothing better to do on a saturday evening :P)

It was mid august and I decided to go up to summer camp for a couple of weeks.
By my surprise there were already a few people that I knew that were going.Jackson a guy that I barely knew at the time and Trenton,a good but younger friend of mine.So when I got there I greeted Trenton and I said Hello to Jackson.A few days later I started hanging out with Jackson.He was so sweet and so kind to me.Then one warm evening he confessed his love for me at the beach,where the sun was gently setting.It was romantic.At the time, we were both 14 years old.So yep,we had loads of energy to stay up very late at night and gaze at the stars.So when it was about 2am we would sneak out of our large canvas tents and meet at the campsite docks.We would tell stories about our lives and wonder if we were soul mates for life.We would also go sailing together.Every night before going to bed,we would build a campfire and sing songs until we were sleepy and went to bed and got back up at 2.It was the best summer of my life and I will never forget it.
-True Story
-Skye Blaze (:

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